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first use - make db

June 4, 2016, 1:58 am
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by leandromarino (Posted Sat Jun 04, 2016 1:58 am)
Hi all,

I'm using the for the first time the XnView. I have an folder with several images (+60k) all this images are in folders and subfolder. To get all thumbs and infos do I have to enter in each folder? Is there any fastest way for doing such thing?

Tks in advance.

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Crash while browsing unrecognized format image

June 3, 2016, 7:48 pm
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by bgoodman (Posted Fri Jun 03, 2016 7:48 pm)
Using XnView 0.79 on Windows 7 x64

Browsing into a directory with a ".pic" image file which has an unrecognized format (probably a Mac image file) XnView crashes.

First attempt caused Windows to display "XnView MP has stopped working" with this report:

Problem Event Name: APPCRASH
Application Name: xnviewmp.exe
Application Version: 0.77.0.0
Application Timestamp: 56f11981
Fault Module Name: ntdll.dll
Fault Module Version: 6.1.7601.23418
Fault Module Timestamp: 5708a857
Exception Code: c0000005
Exception Offset: 000000000004dfaf
OS Version: 6.1.7601.2.1.0.768.3
Locale ID: 1033
Additional Information 1: 6893
Additional Information 2: 68937a06fcf1e9532e59d6d09b57a9e6
Additional Information 3: c3af
Additional Information 4: c3af747d57a5ea18d560152af966f98e

Second attempt generated the dialog in the attached file.
The problematic file is also attached in FailPic.zip.

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Blurred thumbnails - where is sharpening?

June 4, 2016, 4:46 am
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by mrwul (Posted Sat Jun 04, 2016 4:46 am)
Noticed that large thumbnails are blurred, vainly tried to find settings that will sharpen the thumbnails.
Q: where can I find it?


Meanwhile, I went into Settings->Browser->Catalog->db settings
Noticed a LOT, I mean a LOT of folders in the 'cached directory'.
[Delete All] button (at the bottom) didn't work. I could delete some cached folders of non-existing paths (paths to disconnected external USB drives)
There are sooo many folders still left under 'Cached Directory' - I would not know whether or not they all exist.
Anyway I clicked on 'Rebuild thumbnails' and it will take (quite) a while to do so.
Not sure whether that is the solution though.

attachment shows a preview by Directory Opus (left) and XnViewMP latest version, right.

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first use - make db

June 4, 2016, 5:00 am
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by XnTriq (Posted Sat Jun 04, 2016 5:00 am)
Welcome to the forum, leandromarino (-:

If you click on a folder in the treeview with the right mouse button, you'll find the command Show all files (recursive) in the context menu.

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NConvert 6.88

June 4, 2016, 9:18 pm
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by cday (Posted Sat Jun 04, 2016 9:18 pm)
eli75 wrote:Unfortunately I noticed some unpleasent detail. NConvert scripts exported from XnView Batch Processor give me result very different from using Xnview Batch Proceesor itself with the same settings. Picture loses it's size and quality.

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Does it mean that XnView v.2.36 that I use still makes wrong scripts where absence of -q means -q 100 by default when it's -q 85 in current NConvert?


The NConvert help file gives q = 85 as the default setting:

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-q value          : JPEG/FPX/WIC/PDF quality (default : 85)

The q value used in XnView Classic will I think be the last value set, possibly defaulting to q = 100 when first installed, I'm not sure...

Does that answer your question?

If you need to post further code it would help if you could post it between code tags, as above, rather than as text on a screenshot... :D

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JPEG quality with scripts exported from XnView

June 4, 2016, 9:18 pm
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by cday (Posted Sat Jun 04, 2016 9:18 pm)
eli75 wrote:Unfortunately I noticed some unpleasent detail. NConvert scripts exported from XnView Batch Processor give me result very different from using Xnview Batch Proceesor itself with the same settings. Picture loses it's size and quality.

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Does it mean that XnView v.2.36 that I use still makes wrong scripts where absence of -q means -q 100 by default when it's -q 85 in current NConvert?


The NConvert help file gives q = 85 as the default setting:

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-q value          : JPEG/FPX/WIC/PDF quality (default : 85)

The q value used in XnView Classic will I think be the last value set, possibly defaulting to q = 100 when first installed, I'm not sure...

Does that answer your question?

If you need to post further code it would help if you could post it between code tags, as above, rather than as text on a screenshot... :D

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Adjustable color reduction and color swap in palette

June 5, 2016, 3:07 am
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by segafan (Posted Sun Jun 05, 2016 3:07 am)
Hi,
i really like the color reduction tool in XnView, but i would sometimes need reduce amount of colors to little bit less than 256, but not so low as 128. At the moment there's no way to do that. Would be possible to add there simple slider or fillable box for adjusting the desired amount of colors?
Just one sidenote to color reduction tool - not sure how dithering method selection works when LIBIMAGEQUANT box is checked as i don't see any difference between dithering methods and when none is selected there is still some dithering noticable.

Also would be nice to have chance to do simple swap of position of 2 colors in "edit palette" tool. I need to have some of colors on fixed positions, but same time i don't want to loose any color from the actual palette. Selection of 2 colors (with ALT key?) and click on some "swap button" or do right-click and choose "swap" would be really handy.

thanks in advance

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XnView Classic vs XnView MP

June 5, 2016, 8:50 am
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by Pieloe (Posted Sun Jun 05, 2016 8:50 am)
Following the installation of my new computer I try to use MP rather than Classic.
I think return to classic.

XnView Classic advantages:
- Smaller > and faster
- Webpage > this is an essentail function of XnView for me (other is images sort)
- Slideshow > I use sometime also

XnView MP advantages:
- Better UI > I don't think so
- x64bits > Good but light advantage for a image browser functionality

Pascal

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Explications sur le paramètre "Note" des metadata

June 5, 2016, 10:24 am
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by AdrienBe (Posted Sun Jun 05, 2016 10:24 am)
Je viens de me rendre compte de cette partie Francophone du forum. DOnc j'en profite pour poser ma question en Français aussi, en espérant avoir une réponse rapidement & aider les non-anglophones interressé sur le sujet. Voila la question originale viewtopic.php?f=60&t=18492&p=132237&sid=aa33a7c128669512bc8789cfb7e0cdf8#p132237

No there is no rating field in IPTC. Rating in XMP is a standard, hum a standard Microsoft & adobe use different setting :-(
And if you change the rating or color label, XMP is changed AND DB

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Non il n'y a pas de champ "note" dans IPTC. Le champ "note" est un standard dans XMP, enfin... un standard pr lequel Microsoft et Adobe utilisent des paramètres différents :-( Et si tu changes la note ou le label couleur, XMP est changé ainsi que DB.


Je suis un peu en retard pr cette petite fête mais ce sujet est toujours d'importance donc j'ai pris la liberté de réscusiter cette thread 7 ans plus tard :)

Mes question sont:

    1. Quel est le paramètre XMP utilisé pour le champ note dans XnViewMP (Version 0.78 x64, Jan 14 2016)? MetaDataDeluxe.com dit que XnView utilise "xmp/xmp:Rating", est-ce correct?

    2. Est ce que Microsoft & Adobe se sont mainteant mis d'accord pr utilisé le même paramètre depuis le temps?

    3. J'ai remarqué sur la page de MetaDataDeluxe.com que pour une même information (i.e. rating, or creation date), différent programmes "écrivent vers" et "lisent depuis" différent champs. DOnc si j'utilise la fonctionnalité de "note" dans XnViewMP, ce sera surement invisible dans d'autres programmes, ou bien pire, ça peut être éffacé qd le fichier est exporté. Ne serait-ce pas plus sûr d'utiliser que des "mots clés" pr noter mes photos (car IPTC standard)?

Merci d'avance pr vos réponses

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Explications sur le paramètre "Note" des metadata

June 6, 2016, 7:40 am
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by xnview (Posted Mon Jun 06, 2016 7:40 am)
AdrienBe wrote:
    1. Quel est le paramètre XMP utilisé pour le champ note dans XnViewMP (Version 0.78 x64, Jan 14 2016)? MetaDataDeluxe.com dit que XnView utilise "xmp/xmp:Rating", est-ce correct?

oui

2. Est ce que Microsoft & Adobe se sont mainteant mis d'accord pr utilisé le même paramètre depuis le temps?

non :) il y aussi MicrosoftPhoto:Rating

3. J'ai remarqué sur la page de MetaDataDeluxe.com que pour une même information (i.e. rating, or creation date), différent programmes "écrivent vers" et "lisent depuis" différent champs. DOnc si j'utilise la fonctionnalité de "note" dans XnViewMP, ce sera surement invisible dans d'autres programmes, ou bien pire, ça peut être éffacé qd le fichier est exporté. Ne serait-ce pas plus sûr d'utiliser que des "mots clés" pr noter mes photos (car IPTC standard)?

Les 2 champs adobe & Microsoft sont utilisés en lecture ET ecriture

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Context Menu "Convert with XnConvert" broken on Windows 10

June 6, 2016, 7:59 am
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by ipzipzap (Posted Mon Jun 06, 2016 7:59 am)
I didn't force it, because the user account already has local admin rights.

Now I tried again with "Run as Administrator" and the checkbox keeps checked now, but it still doesn't work as there is no option/submenu in the context menus.

EDIT: Additionally, jumplists on taskbar icons won't work anymore. If I disable the checkbox in XnConvert, the jumplists are working again. So this seems like a bug.

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Blurred thumbnails - where is sharpening?

June 6, 2016, 12:12 pm
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by cday (Posted Mon Jun 06, 2016 12:12 pm)
mrwul wrote:It is set to 'None
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set to lossless zip and also tried high quality jpeg
does not make any difference
(closed and relaunched XnViewMP in between)

And you clicked on Rebuild thumbnails ?

Ah, you asked originally about sharpening, and I see that in XnView MP that option can be found in Tools > Options > Browser > Thumbnails -- Misc tab:idea:

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External delete of image files leaves database inconsistent

June 6, 2016, 1:29 pm
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by moth3r (Posted Mon Jun 06, 2016 1:29 pm)
Hi,

completely agree! People have been asking for that for years. If Picasa did not have it I would even side with developer saying that auto refresh is not possible. Considering Picasa is now killed because Google is all about the cloud there is not much alternatives. That should be opportunity for XnView to seize it and not the other way around. Also if we had this feature that should not be my first post either :)

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Extend NConvert with a custom format

June 6, 2016, 2:31 pm
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by Seneral (Posted Mon Jun 06, 2016 2:31 pm)
xnview wrote:what do you have as source? A 16bits image?

Up to 32Bits, though most are 16-24-Bit PNGs. I'm pretty sure NConvert does support them already, so whats missing is only the raw option, because I thought NConvert has an internal format that the converter converts to and from there is able to convert to any output format, right? So it shouldn't matter...

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Sorting Folders by Date Taken

June 6, 2016, 7:30 pm
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by XnTriq (Posted Mon Jun 06, 2016 7:30 pm)
I see. Have you taken a closer look at Tools» Import and sort... and the cataloging features?

oops66 (Keywords vs Categories) wrote:Plus (to automatically and recursively generate the full photo album sorted by date - like Picasa):
It would also be very interesting to have into this Xnview DB the "taken Date" EXIF field , to also have the ability to automatically and quickly generate the full "recursive" photo album (from data already registered into the Xnview DB) automatically sorted by taken date & time like:
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2007
  January
    1.jpg
    2.jpg
    ...
    n.jpg
  April
    1.jpg
    2.jpg
    n.jpg
  ...
2008
  January
    1.jpg
    2.jpg
    n.jpg
  June
    1.jpg
    2.jpg
    n.jpg
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unintentional dragging-moving in tree window

June 6, 2016, 10:15 pm
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by Mixer (Posted Mon Jun 06, 2016 10:15 pm)
How do you navigate through the folder tree in the way program thinks you want to move a folder? Can't hit a slider bar? Arrow keys shorten Ctrl Alt+M combination in keyboard circuit?

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Batch renaming quits at start

June 6, 2016, 10:17 pm
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by Mixer (Posted Mon Jun 06, 2016 10:17 pm)
Is it custom error message displayed by XnView or general error message displayed by Windows? And what exactly this message is saying?

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only viewing small DNG file

June 6, 2016, 10:51 pm
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by gregambrose99 (Posted Mon Jun 06, 2016 10:51 pm)
I have the same problem with importing a DNG.

Did you manage to role this problem?

I hope so as I love every other aspect of this software Very well designed.

Thanks,
Greg

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Request: Actions > File Operations

June 7, 2016, 3:17 am
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by HeyYCw (Posted Tue Jun 07, 2016 3:17 am)
First use and XnConvert is amazing - thank you!

I would like to be able to perform a sequence of actions on a master image and export different versions to multiple destinations.

Feature request: A new category of Actions > File Operations. The new actions would essentially contain many of the same options provided in the "Output" tab. However by making this tab an Action, I could efficiently perform multiple operations on a single file. The Output tab would then become redundant.

Other file actions could include touch, delete and duplicate.

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Sorting Folders by Date Taken

June 7, 2016, 9:03 am
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by vseera (Posted Tue Jun 07, 2016 9:03 am)
Thank you for the information and links.

For others looking to do the same thing as me, please note that I have tried every single image organiser out there. Everything from the big shots (Adobe, Corel) to shareware (ACDSee, Phototheca) to freeware (Digikam, Faststone, XnView). That's just naming a few, I must have tried out over 20 and have gone through every program on alternativeto.net and all the internet lists I could find.

Out of all of those, only Phototheca (and of course Picasa) sort folders by looking at the EXIF dates of the images inside them. Picasa is the most polished, fast and easy to use. It is also able to change image dates for a range of images by a certain margin, instead of a single date/time value. I dislike Phototheca's iPhoto wannabe GUI and it is slow in usage and makes my AV go crazy.

I even would have sold my soul to the devil with Adobe etc if any of them worked the way I wanted.

As of now, this is not possible to do in XnView or XnViewMP.

XnViewMP gives me the most hope and that's why I am here. It's well written and fast but unusable for me for now. If anyone added this as a plugin or something to XnViewMP or can recommend another program, I would happily pay $200 for it.

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